How To Predict PageRank
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Everyone knows that pagerank (PR) increase is very unpredicatable. It is easy to get PR3. But, to get PR4 we need work on link building equally. We need an enourmous amount of incoming PR juice that increases exponentially to step up each level. But, no one actually knows how to calculate pagerank. It involves many many factors that sums up with page rank. Google might be referring to some real PR value that represent PR1-10 on PR toobar. It can be Base 2, Base 5, Base 10, Base 20, Base 50, Base 100, etc. Let us give an example of Base 10 here.
Real PR —————————–> Toolbar PR
0-9 ———————————> 0
10-99 ——————————-> 1
100-999 —————————–> 2
1,000-9,999 ————————–> 3
10,000-99,999 ————————> 4
100,000-999,999 ———————-> 5
1,000,000-9,999,999 ——————> 6
10,000,000-99,999,999 —————-> 7
100,000,000-999,999,999 ————–> 8
1,000,000,000-9,999,999,999 ———-> 9
10,000,000,000-99,999,999,999+ ——> 10
For example, if a page have PR3 and total outbound links (dofollow and nofollow) are 10 links. Assuming this PR3 page have min real PR value (1,000). Each outbound link will get 100 real PR (1,000 / 10) points added. The real PR value for nofollow links will get flushed away. So, it doesn’t matter how many dofollow/nofollow links a page have, the real PR value divided equally.
One more example of a PR8 page (assuming minimum real PR value is 100,000,000) and this page giving out 100 outgoing links (both dofollow/nofollow). Each outgoing links will carry (100,000,000 / 100) 1,000,000 real PR value. This can get at least PR6 (min 1,000,000 real PR) if we follow this chart.
Of course there are other measurent like content relevancy, anchored keyword, etc involved. Basically, relevant contents tends to give more value to our backlinks. That does not mean that irrelevant links will not give any value. Only, the value of backlink from irrelevant links are not as high as relevant links. In google’s eye, a dofollow backlink is still count as backlink.
This can be a guide to predict next pagerank too. Let’s take for example, Atniz dot com have PR3 now. I’m targeting to get PR4 in next update. Assuming, I’m at min real PR level (1,000 real PR), I need to get 9,000 real PR value in order to get PR4 (10,000 real PR). That is 10 times real PR value there. It means, I need work 10 times more on building backlinks to get one step ahead. Luckily, we have a shortcut to it from high PR dofollow blog commenting service.
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July 25th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Thanks for the update. If you can do it with a picture maybe it will be better for me to understand about how google PR rank works. Read many post regarding this but I still don’t have any clue what exactly all of you talking about in Google PR.
I am addicted to your site now. Kakakakaka….
Try to find something about putting a H1 tags for blogspot template this few days, I cannot find anything that can help me. Even in the digital forum. I can only found some H1 tags for wordpress.
See you and keep up this excellent kindda post.
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:29 am
I’m not really good in drawings and picture, really sorry about that. This is just an idea of how PR is calculated. Trust me, there are no one can actually provide exact calculation algorithm for PR other than google, which is their secret recipe. Thanks for you support to my blog. It’s been long time I don’t mess with blogspot blogs. Will check on that and let you know if I cross any H1 tag for blogspot templates.
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July 25th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Thanks for this post. I find it very informative and educational. Now I have a broad idea on how to increase the PR of my blog, Business Sphere, which is a 90-day old blog with a PR 1. You were able to explain the complicated subject about page rank in a brief and concise manner, which saves a lot of my time.
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Not bad for 90 day old blog to have PR1. I wish you good luck for second PR update. Just try to concentrate more on dofollow backlinks if you want to increase PR.
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July 25th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Thank you for the information. It really helps to target my first PR.
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:32 am
You’re welcome. I wish you all the best for next PR update.
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July 25th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Thanks for this information, it’s very useful for me.
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:32 am
You’re welcome. Hope you enjoy my recent posts too.
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July 26th, 2009 at 6:42 am
I agree with u,,
to reach at least pr4 is more difficult than from 0 to 3
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Glad you see the clear picture on PR increase. Wish you all the best for next PR update.
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July 26th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
i still confuse with google pr prediction….its a mystery for me…:(
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Just click “pagerank” tag on my sidebar. Read all my post from earlier day. I’m sure you will see some clear picture there. I don’t know anything about pagerank 18 months ago.
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July 26th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Thanks for the great info and helping me understand how they get a PR 4 and above. Keep up the great posting.
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:53 am
You’re welcome. Now, you know how they got PR4, I wish you all the best too for next PR update.
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July 27th, 2009 at 1:17 am
It’s probably worth mentioning that much confusion surrounds inbound links or backlinks and dofollow/nofollow.
PR is made up of lots of different factors. One of the primary factors are the inbound link. It doesn’t matter if the link is dofollow or nofollow, Google still indexes it.
If it’s dofollow then great, you’ll get extra link juice from it. If it’s nofollow Google will still have it indexed as an inbound link to your page thereby adding weight to your PR value.
The dofollow passes PR value directly from the linking site, whereas the nofollow passes PR value as accumulation of the total number of sites linking in to your site.
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Andrew, you are saying nofollow link passes PR value. Can you share any authorized information regarding this? So far, I can only find nofollow links don’t pass PR value and don’t help SERP increase in google.
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Andrew Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:13 am
It’s confusing I know but I’m not saying nofollow passes PR. I’m saying nofollow adds to your overall PR with an accumulated value of all inbound links.
For example(and some of these numbers are random because its Googles secret sauce).
Say your a site has 10 inbound links from various relevant sites that are all dofollow. You site would get 2 point of PR value from each inbound link plus it would get another 2 points of PR value for the accumulation of the 10 links.
Now say your site has 10 inbound links that are nofollow. You get 0 PR points directly from those links but you still get the 2 points of PR value from the accumulated links.
Finally say your site has 20 inbound links. 10 nofollow + 10 dofollow. Your site gets 20 points of PR directly from the dofollow links and another 4 points of PR value from all 20 accumulated links.
I hope that’s a better explanation. Must remember that dofollow passes PR value directly but also that the total number of accumulated inbound links also adds weight to your PR.
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July 30th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Now, its clear. Thanks for letting me know about this. Do you have any source where you can find this details?
July 27th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
It is a big jump in order to get the PR4 but it is worth all the effort in the end. Good luck in reaching PR4, I am sure you can do it.
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July 29th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Thank you. I hope it can be reached too.
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July 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Page Rank is important and this is a great guide to understanding how pr is assigned. New online business owners shouldn’t get too hung up on page rank though. Focus on building quality links and getting traffic. My last site sold for over 350k only had a pr of 2 and used no ppc.
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Yes, I agree. PR is just like trophy. It is more important to concentrate on serp ranking and traffic. Can you share the web address that you sold for 350k? It is rare to see a site sold at this rate.
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July 27th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
This is a great explanation but there are a lot of factors aside from inbound and outbound links. As Google said, reputation and relevance are on their algorithm right now which is difficult to predict. But your explanation can be a good estimate of the PR possibilities.
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July 29th, 2009 at 8:33 am
I agree. Relevancy is something not easy to calculate compared to inbound and outbound links. This can be a guidance only.
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July 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
good article.. I agree..for increase PR we need backlink from blog with high pagerank..
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Work At Home Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Great! I wish you all the best for next PR update.
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July 28th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
yes… pagerank is unpredictable…
thanks for sharing
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July 29th, 2009 at 8:35 am
PR is very undpredictable. Wish google share their secret spice on how PR calculated.
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July 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I think to have google PR is not so hard
but if you have it and for some reasons you lose it .
Do you think its easy to got back ?
How long it will takes you
Any advice for that ?
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Work At Home Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Well it depends on how you lose it. If you lose it because of your backlink value drops or you give too much pr juice from your site, we can easily get back our PR by doing more high PR dofollow backlink creations.
If the PR loss is due to some penalty from google, like from paid post from PPP. It can take some time as you need to remove or tagged with nofollow all paid post from and paid links from your blog and submit for re-inclusion in google.com/webmaster. We can only wait and pray for our penalty to be removed and PR to reinstated.
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July 29th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
How do you get that information? Is it valid? anyway thanks for the information
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Work At Home Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
This is just an assumption based on exponential value. It can give a simpler picture of how PR is calculated for next pagerank update. However, there are other factors like relevancy, backlink TLDs, etc involved.
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July 30th, 2009 at 11:08 am
This is a reply to your question, I couldn’t reply in the comment for some reason.
You can get the info right off Matt Cutts blog. He made a video a few months back about page rank and page sculping. He explains it all in there.
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Work At Home Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Thanks Andrew. I will check the video on Matt’s blog. I have limit the conversation thread to 5, that is the reason it can’t go further. Sorry about that.
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August 2nd, 2009 at 6:22 am
Page Rank is really un-predictable..
For example,
One of my blogs has around 2500 links coming in going really good in SERPS but page rank is still 3,
It all depends on Google’s Algorithm which they keep changing all the time!
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August 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 am
Its true Page Rank un-predictable.
Simply we dont know how Google’s Algorithm calculated
for the back links,nofollow links and dofollow.
Other wise all have good Page Rank.
Is the top ranking helping in the Page Rank ? How
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Work At Home Reply:
August 4th, 2009 at 5:06 am
Top ranking in SERP doesn’t help page rank. Top ranking is totally depending on onsite and offsite seo. Page rank is depending on dofollow backlinks from high PR pages.
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August 3rd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
PageRank is totally unpredictable, I agree. If it can be predictable one day, Google will change the rules. No way to understand their algorithm.
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August 4th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Exactly. I think they will do that. That is why they got thousands of people cracking their heads to try out all those new algorithms.
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August 4th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Will it be back not sure
I do have good backlinks dofollow
and it was for all the net moste one year.
The Internal Links could be the only reaso
I made that wrong , I remove it all.
change the IPS and the hosting .
most of my websites directpries and for sure
most of theme in the top ranking on the titles
I will never give up my PR WAS 4 and came back to
where I started.
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Work At Home Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Changing domain could get us started back to zero level if we don’t do proper 301 redirection. You are still doing great at PR4. Wish you good luck for next PR update.
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August 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
wow, very nice article! i wish my blog will be raise soon to be PR 4 ^_^
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Work At Home Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 3:48 am
Good luck for next PR update! Keep on doing link building from various ways. I’m sure you will reach it soon.
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August 6th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Top ranking in SERP is not coming free its togother
dofollow back links,insite,offsite the age of website
and what the information there your website have.
some sites will be in top ranking for 1 to 3 Months
If the admin is not supporting it ,it will hide and we know all the sand box is very dark .
Good day for all of you.
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Work At Home Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
It’s true. It is not easy to reach top ranking in SERP but very easy to lose top place in serp ranking. The competitors are getting more aggressive. We should do link building as how we breathe daily to keep the blog alive.
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August 9th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Do you know how long google pagerank update cycle? My blog is new not even a month old
. First it shows ‘N/A’ in the PR Toolbar and now it’s showing 0/10. how to increase the PR to per say PR1? Any tips for the noob?
Thanks
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Work At Home Reply:
August 15th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Pagerank update cycle can be anytime during 3-6 months. But, for last 2 years, I notice the changes takes place within 3-4 months. Last update was during June. Next, update is expected by end of this month.
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August 15th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Hope you all goog PR
Can you help in this reading for the
google term 1100000 , and BLs…
on the PR prediction
Thanks
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Work At Home Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 6:10 am
I don’t understand your question here. Please explain.
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August 19th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Any update on the PR ?
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Atniz Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 3:54 am
Not yet. Expected by end of this month or the following.
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August 24th, 2009 at 5:53 am
One of my directories was PR3 now its 1
Others all same .
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January 11th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
A bit confusing calculation. But I wish I can get at least PR3 in next PR update
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Atniz Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 11:16 am
It is complicated. It is good to build quality links and update our blog content as frequently as we can with unique contents. PR will flow during updates.
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